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		<title>By: Sunday Wash-Up 19th July &#171; Shack&#39;s Comings and Goings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday Wash-Up 19th July &#171; Shack&#39;s Comings and Goings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nobody’s Fault But Mine Preserving the Future: A Modest Proposal Writing Discussion With Cliff Burns — Part I (pt II &amp; III are linked) Cliff Burns, author of So Dark the Night , is one passionate fellow. His strong views on the publishing industry and dingbat authors may not sit comfortably with many, but they ARE strong views and you should be aware of them and consider them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nobody’s Fault But Mine Preserving the Future: A Modest Proposal Writing Discussion With Cliff Burns — Part I (pt II &amp; III are linked) Cliff Burns, author of So Dark the Night , is one passionate fellow. His strong views on the publishing industry and dingbat authors may not sit comfortably with many, but they ARE strong views and you should be aware of them and consider them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jess C Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess C Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or “Eat shit! Fuck you! Go fuck off and die!”, which I just saw above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or “Eat shit! Fuck you! Go fuck off and die!”, which I just saw above.</p>
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		<title>By: kswolff</title>
		<link>http://cliffjburns.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/nobodys-fault-but-mine/#comment-4405</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, and YES!  Keep up the good work, Cliff.  Too many drones and philstines making the important decisions, willing to sacrifice anything to the Cult of the Bottom Line.  I can just imagine some idiot editor trying to persuade Ferdinand Celine to make his work more &quot;upbeat.&quot;

Sometimes the most sensible thing to say is: &quot;Eat shit!  Fuck you!  Go fuck off and die!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and YES!  Keep up the good work, Cliff.  Too many drones and philstines making the important decisions, willing to sacrifice anything to the Cult of the Bottom Line.  I can just imagine some idiot editor trying to persuade Ferdinand Celine to make his work more &#8220;upbeat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes the most sensible thing to say is: &#8220;Eat shit!  Fuck you!  Go fuck off and die!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: davidrochester</title>
		<link>http://cliffjburns.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/nobodys-fault-but-mine/#comment-3925</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm.

I think there&#039;s a difference between an editor who wants to make something marketable, and one who wants to bring it into its fullest flowering of potential.

The first kind should be told to fuck off, in no uncertain terms ... the work is yours, and if you don&#039;t want to alter it to suit the flavor of the day, you shouldn&#039;t.

But the second kind ... probably worth listening to.  It&#039;s a rare artist who can see his own work clearly.  A good editor is the equivalent of a colleague whose opinion you would solicit.  

I suppose one could try to ascend the heights of Kubrick and Welles, but ... I don&#039;t know.  There&#039;s a lot of &lt;i&gt; hubris &lt;/i&gt; inherent in that kind of attitude.  Personally, I&#039;m not so convinced of my greatness that I&#039;m not grateful for thoughtful input from people who care about my work.  And I&#039;d say more editors fall into that camp than into the bloodsucking camp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a difference between an editor who wants to make something marketable, and one who wants to bring it into its fullest flowering of potential.</p>
<p>The first kind should be told to fuck off, in no uncertain terms &#8230; the work is yours, and if you don&#8217;t want to alter it to suit the flavor of the day, you shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But the second kind &#8230; probably worth listening to.  It&#8217;s a rare artist who can see his own work clearly.  A good editor is the equivalent of a colleague whose opinion you would solicit.  </p>
<p>I suppose one could try to ascend the heights of Kubrick and Welles, but &#8230; I don&#8217;t know.  There&#8217;s a lot of <i> hubris </i> inherent in that kind of attitude.  Personally, I&#8217;m not so convinced of my greatness that I&#8217;m not grateful for thoughtful input from people who care about my work.  And I&#8217;d say more editors fall into that camp than into the bloodsucking camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Software for Writers: Audacity &#171; James Viscosi&#8217;s Scribblings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Software for Writers: Audacity &#171; James Viscosi&#8217;s Scribblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like Cliff Burns over at Beautiful Desolation, distribute (or plan to distribute) the podcasts on their own; some go through clearinghouses such as Podiobooks; some go through &#8220;audio magazines&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like Cliff Burns over at Beautiful Desolation, distribute (or plan to distribute) the podcasts on their own; some go through clearinghouses such as Podiobooks; some go through &#8220;audio magazines&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: how to sell a manuscript</title>
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		<dc:creator>how to sell a manuscript</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It??s an ugly word, one not found in my vocabulary. Honestly, I utter it so rarely I actuallyhttp://cliffjburns.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/nobodys-fault-but-mine/Betrayal of the American Right, The Ludwig von Mises InstituteThis remarkable piece of history will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It??s an ugly word, one not found in my vocabulary. Honestly, I utter it so rarely I actuallyhttp://cliffjburns.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/nobodys-fault-but-mine/Betrayal of the American Right, The Ludwig von Mises InstituteThis remarkable piece of history will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pandemonic</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s some manifesto there, Dude.

I know some &quot;published&quot; authors, and in fact bought my home from a successful romance novelist. We discuss this among ourselves all the time. There&#039;s a bit of &quot;dissing&quot; the self-published start ups as not being &quot;real&quot; writers. Anyone can publish anything these days, so you don&#039;t need agents and editors. Indeed, some of the self-published books are absolutely awful - story lines that are faulty, bad grammar, homophone abuse, you name it -  but some are worthy. We&#039;ve also had similar discussions on the &quot;mill&quot; process of writing: &quot;they&quot; tell you what to write and how to write it. That&#039;s the trade off for being published by the &quot;big box&quot; companies.

My novel is just in its early stages. I&#039;m looking forward to having my book edited and examined, but I&#039;m happy to know that if I don&#039;t want to compromise, I can take my work and publish it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s some manifesto there, Dude.</p>
<p>I know some &#8220;published&#8221; authors, and in fact bought my home from a successful romance novelist. We discuss this among ourselves all the time. There&#8217;s a bit of &#8220;dissing&#8221; the self-published start ups as not being &#8220;real&#8221; writers. Anyone can publish anything these days, so you don&#8217;t need agents and editors. Indeed, some of the self-published books are absolutely awful &#8211; story lines that are faulty, bad grammar, homophone abuse, you name it &#8211;  but some are worthy. We&#8217;ve also had similar discussions on the &#8220;mill&#8221; process of writing: &#8220;they&#8221; tell you what to write and how to write it. That&#8217;s the trade off for being published by the &#8220;big box&#8221; companies.</p>
<p>My novel is just in its early stages. I&#8217;m looking forward to having my book edited and examined, but I&#8217;m happy to know that if I don&#8217;t want to compromise, I can take my work and publish it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: mikecane</title>
		<link>http://cliffjburns.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/nobodys-fault-but-mine/#comment-3875</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are times when editors and agents are your adversary and there are times when they are not.

We will never, ever precisely know what many print books were like before an editor edited it.

There have been editors who have been praised by classic authors for bringing out *what they meant*.

One story I can cite of editorial intervention is in the novel The Fountainhead.  Rand had Roark in an affair with someone.  The editor said that should be cut.  It was.  Had it not been cut, I think Roark would not be the character everyone thinks of today.  So, who was right?  Rand or the editor?

Another story.  I won&#039;t cite the author.  Only to say she is a top-ten seller.  She submitted her latest novel and it was, to put it kindly, a &quot;mess.&quot;  The editor had to go through it line-by-line to make it publishable.  In my mind, this is an example of author abuse.  The author thought she was so hot shit, they&#039;d take anything she gave them.

Just like that hack Harold Robbins.  You can read about him here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=485996&amp;in_page_id=1770

Lastly, there is the case of best-selling author Og Mandino.  His books were to help everyday people lift themselves up.  People laugh at them as being simplistic and using simple language.  What most people don&#039;t know is that they started out as very different books with a large vocabulary.  He would give the ms to his wife to read and she kept having to look up words.  She confronted him and told him he wasn&#039;t going to sell unless he modified his vocabulary.  She was right.  (Ever tried to read Henry Miller?  Have a ginormous dictionary handy!)

Hell, a good copy editor is a joy too.  I&#039;ve had sentences made clearer by them.  I wish I could damn well marry a good copy editor and set her loose on my text before I hit Publish on my blog!  (Not that what I do there is what I consider writing -- but it&#039;d at least save me a lot of self-embarrassment!)

Good editors and good agents are being crushed by the same people as writers: the bastards who only see &quot;maximizing shareholder value&quot; as the be-all and end-all of corporate efforts.

Finally, there&#039;s the advice of Randy Pausch:
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/the-dreams-will-come-to-you/

Have the wisdom to see criticism as *caring*.

I wouldn&#039;t trust *anyone* who told me my work was flawless.  *It never is!*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are times when editors and agents are your adversary and there are times when they are not.</p>
<p>We will never, ever precisely know what many print books were like before an editor edited it.</p>
<p>There have been editors who have been praised by classic authors for bringing out *what they meant*.</p>
<p>One story I can cite of editorial intervention is in the novel The Fountainhead.  Rand had Roark in an affair with someone.  The editor said that should be cut.  It was.  Had it not been cut, I think Roark would not be the character everyone thinks of today.  So, who was right?  Rand or the editor?</p>
<p>Another story.  I won&#8217;t cite the author.  Only to say she is a top-ten seller.  She submitted her latest novel and it was, to put it kindly, a &#8220;mess.&#8221;  The editor had to go through it line-by-line to make it publishable.  In my mind, this is an example of author abuse.  The author thought she was so hot shit, they&#8217;d take anything she gave them.</p>
<p>Just like that hack Harold Robbins.  You can read about him here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=485996&amp;in_page_id=1770" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=485996&amp;in_page_id=1770</a></p>
<p>Lastly, there is the case of best-selling author Og Mandino.  His books were to help everyday people lift themselves up.  People laugh at them as being simplistic and using simple language.  What most people don&#8217;t know is that they started out as very different books with a large vocabulary.  He would give the ms to his wife to read and she kept having to look up words.  She confronted him and told him he wasn&#8217;t going to sell unless he modified his vocabulary.  She was right.  (Ever tried to read Henry Miller?  Have a ginormous dictionary handy!)</p>
<p>Hell, a good copy editor is a joy too.  I&#8217;ve had sentences made clearer by them.  I wish I could damn well marry a good copy editor and set her loose on my text before I hit Publish on my blog!  (Not that what I do there is what I consider writing &#8212; but it&#8217;d at least save me a lot of self-embarrassment!)</p>
<p>Good editors and good agents are being crushed by the same people as writers: the bastards who only see &#8220;maximizing shareholder value&#8221; as the be-all and end-all of corporate efforts.</p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s the advice of Randy Pausch:<br />
<a href="http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/the-dreams-will-come-to-you/" rel="nofollow">http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/the-dreams-will-come-to-you/</a></p>
<p>Have the wisdom to see criticism as *caring*.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust *anyone* who told me my work was flawless.  *It never is!*</p>
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		<title>By: derekcatermole</title>
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		<dc:creator>derekcatermole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You macho, posturing jackass. You think your “uncompromising” attitude is comparable to Welles and Godard? Here’s the difference: they were successful artists who refused to accept that their ideas were wrong; you’re a failure who refuses to understand that his work is trash. Simply having a tough-guy pose doesn’t make you comparable to the greats. You need to actually have a skill too, and you don’t. All you have is a delusion that you cling to with astonishing tenacity. Any editor would remind you to change “nauseous” for “nauseated” (unless you mean that you make other people feel nauseated, which is accurate), and to drop redundancies like “fellow colleagues,” and in fact any editor will do his or her solemn moral duty and tell you to take your crappy work elsewhere. Get the message: the ten-millionth vampire noir novel is just as bad as all the rest. We don’t need it. There are too many books to read already. Thank god the publishing industry rejects you. And don’t offer that nonsense about you being disadvantaged because you’re white and you’re a man. That’s simple horseshit. Hardly anyone gets published and even if you were a purple lesbian hobgoblin (maybe you really are), your prose would still be stilted drivel, your story contrived and unoriginal, and no-one would publish it.

I feel bad for your family. Your poor wife must be the most brow-beaten human alive. Do you have a podium at the dinner table so you can spout your grievances extemporaneously? Or perhaps you’re like the great Goofy cartoon, where mild-mannered Mr. Walker becomes demonic Mr. Wheeler when he climbs into his car. In person maybe you’re meek and pliant, but when you get on your blog-horse, you’re a mighty warrior, dealing death to your enemies.

Get over it a little. Sorry you’re not going to have the glittering career you imagined for yourself, but at some point you have to deal with this plain fact: you’re not good enough. Find something else to devote your energy to and give up your death-grip on the illusion of your talent. Quit letting other frustrated nine-time losers encourage you with this quixotic foolishness. Let someone who actually knows something (me, for instance) tell you what goes on. It’s never going to happen, and nor should it. Justice, art, morality, human decency all cry out, “Cliff J. Burns does not deserve an audience.” Take pity on us, and on yourself, you sad fellow, and stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You macho, posturing jackass. You think your “uncompromising” attitude is comparable to Welles and Godard? Here’s the difference: they were successful artists who refused to accept that their ideas were wrong; you’re a failure who refuses to understand that his work is trash. Simply having a tough-guy pose doesn’t make you comparable to the greats. You need to actually have a skill too, and you don’t. All you have is a delusion that you cling to with astonishing tenacity. Any editor would remind you to change “nauseous” for “nauseated” (unless you mean that you make other people feel nauseated, which is accurate), and to drop redundancies like “fellow colleagues,” and in fact any editor will do his or her solemn moral duty and tell you to take your crappy work elsewhere. Get the message: the ten-millionth vampire noir novel is just as bad as all the rest. We don’t need it. There are too many books to read already. Thank god the publishing industry rejects you. And don’t offer that nonsense about you being disadvantaged because you’re white and you’re a man. That’s simple horseshit. Hardly anyone gets published and even if you were a purple lesbian hobgoblin (maybe you really are), your prose would still be stilted drivel, your story contrived and unoriginal, and no-one would publish it.</p>
<p>I feel bad for your family. Your poor wife must be the most brow-beaten human alive. Do you have a podium at the dinner table so you can spout your grievances extemporaneously? Or perhaps you’re like the great Goofy cartoon, where mild-mannered Mr. Walker becomes demonic Mr. Wheeler when he climbs into his car. In person maybe you’re meek and pliant, but when you get on your blog-horse, you’re a mighty warrior, dealing death to your enemies.</p>
<p>Get over it a little. Sorry you’re not going to have the glittering career you imagined for yourself, but at some point you have to deal with this plain fact: you’re not good enough. Find something else to devote your energy to and give up your death-grip on the illusion of your talent. Quit letting other frustrated nine-time losers encourage you with this quixotic foolishness. Let someone who actually knows something (me, for instance) tell you what goes on. It’s never going to happen, and nor should it. Justice, art, morality, human decency all cry out, “Cliff J. Burns does not deserve an audience.” Take pity on us, and on yourself, you sad fellow, and stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscarandre</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a difference between seeking critical advice and surrendering artistic honesty - one is the pursuit of perfection, the other the pursuit of gammon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a difference between seeking critical advice and surrendering artistic honesty &#8211; one is the pursuit of perfection, the other the pursuit of gammon.</p>
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